Prayer for the sick 11 amulet for the sick 12 prayer of blessing a person prayer for the wellbeing of a child 14 prayer for travelers 15 prayer for divine guidance 16 prayer for comfort in troubled times 17 prayer for the neglected 18 prayer for the poor in spirit 19 prayer for victims of the archons 20 prayer for our enemies 21 prayer for. It was originally written by two women, martha cleveland and arlys g. Our groups are listed with the general service office gso and most have a general service representative gsr. The twelve step prayers were created using the text of the big book of alcoholics anonymous. Page 89 this alcoholics anonymous is an experience you must not miss. The 3rd step illustrated and third step prayerstattoos. I want the truth and have no desireto whisper prayerfully into a hole page.
Are there any prayers for agnostics spiritual forums. Quotes tagged as agnosticprayer showing of 40 good gods are scarce because the majority of gods are created by evil men. The forums in the christian congregations category are now open only to christian members. Greetings david i am a healer but not personally religious as in the need to give any names ie. Take away my difficulties, that victory over them may bear witness to those i would help of thy power, thy love and thy way of life. The lords prayer isnt suggested anywhere in the big book yet the. Home read the big book and twelve steps and twelve traditions alcoholics anonymous alcoholics anonymous this is the fourth edition of the big book, the basic text for alcoholics anonymous. Agnostic prayers, polytheistic prayers, and meditation chants. I value ethical actions from a humanitarian point of view and i respect science. We agnostics i n the precedingchapters you have learned something of alcoholism. Okay, its not a prayer, we arent pleading to a deity, its really an affirmation. Im about to go over the third step with my sponcor and she wants me to come up with a version of the third step prayer that works for me. I have called what i have above a prayer, but like a mantra, or the litany against fear, it helped to say it to myself more than once. Aa prayers the serenity prayer, both the long and short version of the prayer.
Relieve me of the bondage of self, that i may better do thy will. Given that this is populated mostly by ardent atheists, i wonder why you ask if people pray here. The atheist, agnostic, or unbelievers prayer youtube. September 18, 2016 new this week, personal stories, steps and traditions 18 7670 before we even decide on what we call ourselves agnostic, secular, waaft, no prayer, etc. How atheists in aa climb the twelve steps without a. God, grant me the serenity, to accept the things i can not change, courage to change the things i can, and wisdom to know the difference. This was quite an onerous task that took some time to complete and it is, given how bad a book this is, something i would not have taken on had the errors and misrepresentations embodied in this work been of less consequence. Goodness knows i have plenty of negative selftalk, so if i can repeat a positive affirmation to myself from time to time, and if it makes me feel better, then what the heck. This is perhaps the most famous prayer in all of science fiction and fantasy, frequently invoked by madrak the mighty, and yet it is also one of the most difficult to find. Popular agnostic books showing 5 of 35 jesus, interrupted.
I seek help in eliminating every single fear and unhealthy defensive mechanism which limits me. The recent controversy in toronto, ontario is about the agnostic aa groups being delisted from the meeting book in the city as well as getting thrown out of torontos aa intergroup. Aa beyond belief provides a space for agnostics, atheists and freethinkers in alcoholics anonymous to freely share their experience, strength and hope with each other and aa as a whole. An agnostic prayer for strength confessions of a supply.
September 18, 2016 new this week, personal stories, steps and traditions 18 7670 before we even decide on what we call ourselves agnostic, secular, waaft, noprayer, etc. Aa na al anon alanon fellowship specific art poetry. Even in hospital cancer ward each visit chaplains would come in and say something from a book to make themselves feel better and someone knitted prayer shawls. By john huey one big hoax a view of the book one big tent published by aa grapevine. Bob smith, decided it was better for their recovery to go forward with god rather than without him. Bobs aa program and the aa big book as it is, there it is the lords prayer and all, take it or leavewhats our choice to be page 181 your heavenly father will never let you down. Better yet would be putting together your own agnostic prayersomething that works for you. We especially ask for freedom from selfwill, and are careful to make no requests for ourselves only we may ask for ourselves, however, if. In letting go, i gain strength to self care and be of service to others. About onethird of alcoholics in the united states are women.
If someone tries to lecture you, just look bored and say, umhumthats nice, then walk away. No religion no prayer just warm friendly folks like you gathering together for support and sobriety. Suggestions about prayer and meditation from the aa big book. My hope is that these prayers will provide a framework for you to develop your own or expand on the wording below. Increasingly engage spiritual energy and awareness to continue to grow in abiding strength and wisdom and in the enjoyment of life. The story behind who changed the bible and why paperback by. This prayer was found on a website called a puritans mind in which john gerstner, an. I mean no derision, just pointing out that faith is irrational, and rightly so. As the third tradition says, the only requirement for a. Aa prayers the serenity prayer god grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change. Third step prayer alcoholics anonymous god, i offer myself to thee. Beseeching the aid of a deity is an irrational action, or act of faith. Just keep sitting, and read a kindle book while they pray. That is a first here in a small town in southern illinois, a rather evangelical christian area.
You wont find many agnostic big book or step meetings out there. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with god as we understood him, praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out march 25, 2020 by roger published march 25, 2020 last modified april 28, 2020. Prayers from the big book of alcoholics anonymous big. A history of agnostics in aa is a perfect blend of two essential parts for a book of this sort. To answer this, i could blow the dust off my big book, open to page 59, and wait for. Find nonprayer aa meetings for agnostic aa in the san franscisco bay area here. The aa agnostics, freethinkers and atheists groups share a common faith. The history goes back to jim burwell, the first atheist in aa, and to the very first agnostic aa meetings.
We are listed in the meeting book published by new york intergroup, and we are listed on their web site. Somewhat ironically, the groups name, we agnostics, is derived from the title of the fourth chapter of the big book of alcoholics anonymous, which mainly details the reasons why the original founders of aa, bill w. Do agnostics pray and if they do, to whom do they pray, and what is the prayer they say. To open a discussion on this article, please use the contact page to provide your comments. To one who feels he is an atheist or agnostic such an experience seems impossible, but to continue as he is.
The twelve steps illustrated tour steps 112, fun stepwork. As valuable today as it was then, a second edition ofthis exceptional work was published by aa agnostica. It saves through leading us to the may the lord bless you and your families. The text used to develop the prayers are shown at the end of the prayer in parenthesis. After business hours please enter through back door. No religion no prayerjust warm friendly folks like you gathering together for support and sobriety. Aa beyond belief provides a space for agnostics, atheists and freethinkers in alcoholics anonymous to freely share their. A secular serenity prayer we agnostics kansas city. I began attending agnostic meetings in aa and my sponsor fired me. Page 95 if you are to find god the desire must come from within.
Aa 3rd step prayer, traditional aa, alcoholics anonymous third step prayer from the big book. For a book which professes to be geared toward atheists and agnostics in aa, i was unpleasantly surprised by all of the references to god, higher power, praying. Our meetings dont include a prayer and for many of us, that makes all the difference. Big book alcoholics anonymous chapter 4 we agnostics pages 44 57.
My hope is that these prayers will provide a framework for you to develop your own or. I can tell you what i, an agnostic, think about the concept of prayer. Reading guide for we agnostics amethyst recovery center. Can you wait until the prayer is over before you come into the meeting. A few weeks ago i began talking about the agnostic concept in aa, noting that i am going to the convention in santa monica in november. Sober for thirty years, by jim b author of big book story. Introduction ii general considerations iv prayerbook i the sign of the cross 1 the christos prayer 2 the strangers prayer 3 prayer to the mother barbelo 4 prayers upon waking 5. The aa agnostics, freethinkers and atheists groups share a common faith that suffering alcoholics can achieve sobriety through the proven aa 12 step program without having to accept anyone elses beliefs or having to deny their own. A space for aa agnostics, atheists and freethinkers worldwide. But despite having differences in the causes and symptoms of alcoholism, men and women receive the same treatment. Any user who has blocked me will have their comments removed. God, give me grace to accept with serenity the things that can not be changed, the courage to change the things that should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other. P86 the god world agnostic and atheist members in a. A 3rd step painting, representing growth in our spirtuality.
My own agnostic version of alcoholics anonymous the fix. We hope we have made clear the distinction between the alcoholic and the nonalcoholic. Maybe i am making progress in getting people to think differently. Christian members please remember to read the statement of purpose threads for each forum within christian congregations before posting in the forum. The serenity prayer is the common name for a prayer written by the american theologian reinhold niebuhr 18921971. Alcoholics anonymous encourages prayer to a god as we. The lords prayer sometimes referred to as the our father prayer. Im in sacramento and there are no agnostic meetingsonly the ones that say the. We agnostics is the fourth chapter of alcoholics anonymous, or the fifth if you include the doctors opinion. Secular aa offers over 520 face to face group meetings worldwide. Many of us said to our maker, as we understood him. God, i offer myself to thee to build with me and to do with me as thou wilt. With honesty and openness, i am now willing to let others have all of me, good and bad.
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